Cambridge District Scout Archives
1926 – 2018
A letter of November 15th 1926 informed Scoutmasters of the proposal to District (next Friday) to open an Equipment Store and asked if they were likely to support and use a store.
In July that year the District Executive had recommended that a Scout Shop ‘should not run at present’.
First opened in 13th December 1926 as the Equipment Store
The first store was ‘in the cramped rifle range half the way up the stairs at Grafton Street HQ where the shop was first situated. It was a very good thing that when the original office at the top of the stairs was converted into the shop about 1930. I officially joined the scout shop in January 1934 and since then it has been my Scout job (Fred Feary kept things ticking over for about two years when I was in the Services). In the mid 1940’s I expanded to take on some Girl Guide goods, commencing to sell uniforms when clothes rationing ended. In 1956 we went to a temporary home in Russell Street for about 4 months until our present shop was ready in September 1956. Now after 20 years at Perne Road, we have completed out half century. I am proud to have been responsible for 43 years of this period.’ Ken North Hon Manager from Cambridge Scout Gazette 12/1976
Behind the Counter Shop workers whose names have been identified
- S. W. ‘Waggles’ Edwards 11th
- Arthur Ruse c. 1930 (a University Assistant – a job advertised at 25/- week)
- Cyril Flack 1932 – 33 (son of caretaker at Grafton Street)
- Mr Jack Flack Caretaker – early assistant (as named by Roger Woollard)
- Ken North 1934 – 1977 (National Service 1940 – 43)
- Don Mann 1934 – 1938 (Rover 7th)
- Walter Miller c. 1935 (Dusty)
- Roland Thompson c. 1935
- Bill Silk 1938 – 1944 (father of Scout not liable for National Service)
- Fred Feary 1939 – 1943 involved in anticipation of Ken’s call up
- Mrs R Hunt 1946 –
- Edgar Tilley 1947 – 1973 Initially at 5/- night
- David Farran with Edgar (as named by Roger Woollard) 7th
- Colin Taylor with Edgar (as named by Roger Woollard)
- Sally Chaplin c. 1956
- Roger Woollard 1966 – c 2000
- John Chambers c. 1967 – 2016
- Snowy Oliver
- Ted Russell
- Phyllis Mills
- Dave Mills
- Bob Benton – end
- ‘But when it was busy and it used to get very busy, so the queue was out the door into the car park, and there would be cars parked everywhere, people would leave the queue and go in and help serve. I’ve done it many times’. Pam Butler 2018
A separate list of Badge Officers can be found under Officers of the Association.
The Equipment Store
1926 Headquarters move into Grafton Street
Opened 13th December 1926
Initially it was a paid role Mr Ruse receiving 25/- a week and Ken North 2/6 per evening. Edgar Tilley was paid on nights worked basis in 1947. By 1928 the Equipment Store was contributing £5 to the costs of the HQ.
1929 ‘The Equipment staff reported that they had started with no capital at all, but they now had £89 in hand which nearly covered the amount of their stock’. From Cambridge Daily News of the AGM in November
1931 The usefulness of the store was questioned. It did not make money for several years, accounting was poor.
1931 Nov Equipment store able to pay the wages not the Local Association.
1932 Future of the shop not very secure
1931 Mr Flack (caretaker at Grafton Street) to be Assistant QM
1934 Ken North ASM (43rd) 2/6 per night took over with Don Mann (7th). The shop was open 5 nights a week 16.30 – 21.30. Ken was asked to make it a financial success for the first time.
1934 AGM Store to be run for one year experimentally. An experienced accountant was asked to look over the running and made several observations with regard to ordering stock that had no market, opening every night and that the wages were equivalent to the deficit. Advice taken and purchase of stock with no market checked.
1935 Small profit
Walter Miller, Roland Thompson behind the counter – open most nights
1935 QM staff no longer paid for holidays. (Wages equalled annual losses)
1937 ‘Received for the first time a sum from the Equipment Store, in this case £44, which was extraordinarily good’. AGM
1938 Stocked up in anticipation of war. Don Mann finishes, Bill Silk started.
1939 Reduced to three evenings a week
1940 1000 black arm bands ordered on strictly confidential basis as HQ knew ‘the Chiefs time was drawing to a close’.
‘Trade in this period good, the increase being partly due to the new orders of camouflage‘
1943 Shop ‘in debt’ with clothing coupons (Ken returns having been invalided out)
1943 Cash only, credit accounts closed.
1945 Started Guide side to shop 26/9/1945 to start Jan 1946
ARP surplus ground sheets, whistles and knives
1946 Profit but most difficult year in the shop. Small profit on ARP surplus but it made the difference.
1947 Ken North complained of standard of staff to district Exec.
1947 Losses attributed to one helper resulted in small loss over a season. Characterised by poor accounting, he was paid off and a more rigorous oversight instigated.
1948 Significant improvement Mr. Tilleys wages increased to 7/6 per night.
1950 Opened one Saturday afternoon a month
1950 Supply situation easier but prices up
1950 Ken North reports contact by Messer Price concerning opening a scout Shop in Cambridge. No more was heard of this proposal.
1951 Proposed Mr North and seconded P R Arthur – The Equipment Store be changed to Cambridge Scout Shop. Agreed
‘About 1954…. it was decided to sell the building (Grafton Street H.Q..) ‘..a few members of the Executive Committee were not in favour of moving to the then outskirts of the City in view of the fact the Shop was by this time a major source of income and it was argued that parents would not go so far from the town for uniforms. Time has told that our present location was for the best, there being no restrictions for car parking etc.’
‘Fortunately during the period between the commencement of building and the actual opening, the shop had a good period of trade…’ From ‘70 years of Scouting in and around Cambridge’ 1908-1978 Ken North
1956 May Temporary shop at Russell Street (off Hills Road) prior to the move to Perne Road 1/9/56 (loan by the Coop who wanted to move into the Grafton Street building). The shop was still intermittently known as The Equipment store when it moved to Perne Road.
1956 Set of drawers from Shepherds (clothing store) donated to Scout shop.
1957 Perne road HQ officially opened
1967 ‘The complete change of uniform hit us hard’
1968 Specifically referred to as The Scout Shop in District Minutes as it had been since 1951. It was known as the Equipment Store in the AGM Accounts earlier in the year.
1969 Honourarium paid to shop helpers increased from £151 to £196
1970 ‘Very busy in shop.’
1976 13th December 50 years of trading (42 under Ken North’s direction- see above) CSG Dec 1976
At this date the shop is described as catering for Cambridgeshire and parts of Essex and Suffolk.
1977 Ken North retired from ‘behind the counter’ after 44 years in charge. See CSG October 1977
Much of the above information has come from Ken North’s recollections which stop in 1978 and the collected District archives which end about this time.
On the division of the District the shop moved into the joint ownership of Crafts Hill and Cambridge Districts. The written minutes in the archive stop at this point.
2018 Perne Road is up for sale and the shop to move.
Contributions to District
The shop has a fourfold benefit to the District
- as a local specialist shop with cheap prices, targeted goods and care
- significant donations to District funds
- latterly – maintenance of Perne Road
- a centre of informal meeting
The table below shows shop donations, capitation fees and the districts portion to demonstrate the very significant work of the shop. The first donation was in 1937 but the financial flow was disrupted by the war. In a period of austerity it quickly returned to sufficient profit to make further donations in 1948. The gaps are incomplete records, X indicates known records showing no donation.
|1980||District||County||HQ||Total capitation||Scout Shop||Members||Profit/Loss|
|1987||10p*||45||£5.25||£550 (to S Cambs.)|
|1990||20p*||80||£6.20||£750 (to S Cambs.)|
|1992||20p*||90||£7.35||£800 (to S Cambs.)|
|1994||£800 (to S Cambs.)|
- Plus £3 Group Insurance (via District?)
The District’s capitation (amount paid to District for every Scout) was less in 1974 than in 1964 because of this support. In 1974 the shop donated to the District 38p for every 5p received from the capitation.
It responded to particular pressures with increased donations and supplied uniforms at even greater discount when full kit was required for special events. They worried about the greater cost of new uniforms to scouts following the Advance Party Report although the change hit the shop hard.
The Scout shop formally closed on 12th February 2020. A final sale weekend was held on the 7th /8th March.
JWR Archivist Jan 2019